Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:28 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Throughout their entire (allopatric) ranges?

Don't know. One should go through a lot of portraits of both species and see how it goes.
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Tomaz Jagar » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:32 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Congrats!

P.S.: You lost a word in the title ;)


Thanks, oh crap, I noticed that only now, I guess the guys who checked the grammar and spelling before publishing somehow missed that one... Oh well, it happens :)
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:32 pm

Bero, just a few Sicilians checked and I'd say "no". Is this published for Istria? In that case, good to know!
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Pierre-Yves Vaucher » Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:05 am

Berislav Horvatic wrote:In the second picture one can see the copper-coloured iris of the eye,
typical for H. viridiflavus, but not for H. gemonensis - the latter have
yellowish irises.


Sorry everybody but now what is what ??

from Vizinada (Istria)
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from Krk airport:
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from Pag Island (Bero's certified as gemonensis)
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:38 am

I'd say 1st might be one of those weirdos, second is gemo
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:51 am

Would say, this from Krk Airport is gemo too - never saw a black one there ;)
This from Pag island has to be gemonensis :lol:

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize :P ;) :lol: :shock:

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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:55 am

:lol:

Didn't check the origin :oops:
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:55 pm

Mario Schweiger wrote:This from Pag island has to be gemonensis :lol:

... since on Pag there is no viridiflavus at all. And all gemonensis there look like normal gemonensis.

Mario Schweiger wrote:If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize :P ;) :lol: :shock:

I give up.
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Pierre-Yves Vaucher » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:21 pm

Mario Schweiger wrote:Would say, this from Krk Airport is gemo too - never saw a black one there ;)
This from Pag island has to be gemonensis :lol:

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize :P ;) :lol: :shock:

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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:32 pm

Pierre-Yves:
and the first one Boss ?


answer by the boss :lol: :lol: :
maybe you would have an overall picture!'?

One thing, I found out, but only about 60 to 70% on individuals, is: gemo has two points on head, while these two points in viridiflavus extend to a bar between the eyes.
And viridiflavus looks a bit more (but what is a bit? :lol: ) more striped.

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