Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

[Berislav Horvatic]

Throughout their entire (allopatric) ranges?

Don't know. One should go through a lot of portraits of both species and see how it goes.

[Tomaz Jagar]

Congrats!

P.S.: You lost a word in the title

Thanks, oh crap, I noticed that only now, I guess the guys who checked the grammar and spelling before publishing somehow missed that one... Oh well, it happens

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

Bero, just a few Sicilians checked and I'd say "no". Is this published for Istria? In that case, good to know!

[Pierre-Yves Vaucher]

In the second picture one can see the copper-coloured iris of the eye,
typical for H. viridiflavus, but not for H. gemonensis - the latter have
yellowish irises.

Sorry everybody but now what is what ??

from Vizinada (Istria)


from Krk airport:


from Pag Island (Bero's certified as gemonensis)

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

I'd say 1st might be one of those weirdos, second is gemo

[Mario Schweiger]

Would say, this from Krk Airport is gemo too - never saw a black one there
This from Pag island has to be gemonensis

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize

Mario

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

Didn't check the origin

[Berislav Horvatic]

This from Pag island has to be gemonensis

... since on Pag there is no viridiflavus at all. And all gemonensis there look like normal gemonensis.

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize

I give up.

[Pierre-Yves Vaucher]

Would say, this from Krk Airport is gemo too - never saw a black one there
This from Pag island has to be gemonensis

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize

Mario

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and the first one Boss ?

[Mario Schweiger]

Pierre-Yves:
and the first one Boss ?

answer by the boss :
maybe you would have an overall picture!'?

One thing, I found out, but only about 60 to 70% on individuals, is: gemo has two points on head, while these two points in viridiflavus extend to a bar between the eyes.
And viridiflavus looks a bit more (but what is a bit? ) more striped.

Mario