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Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Throughout their entire (allopatric) ranges?

Don't know. One should go through a lot of portraits of both species and see how it goes.

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Congrats!

P.S.: You lost a word in the title

Thanks, oh crap, I noticed that only now, I guess the guys who checked the grammar and spelling before publishing somehow missed that one... Oh well, it happens

Bero, just a few Sicilians checked and I'd say "no". Is this published for Istria? In that case, good to know!

Berislav Horvatic wrote:In the second picture one can see the copper-coloured iris of the eye,
typical for H. viridiflavus, but not for H. gemonensis - the latter have
yellowish irises.

Sorry everybody but now what is what ??

from Vizinada (Istria)


from Krk airport:


from Pag Island (Bero's certified as gemonensis)

I'd say 1st might be one of those weirdos, second is gemo

Would say, this from Krk Airport is gemo too - never saw a black one there
This from Pag island has to be gemonensis

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize

Mario

Didn't check the origin

Mario Schweiger wrote:This from Pag island has to be gemonensis

... since on Pag there is no viridiflavus at all. And all gemonensis there look like normal gemonensis.

Mario Schweiger wrote:If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize

I give up.

Mario Schweiger wrote:Would say, this from Krk Airport is gemo too - never saw a black one there
This from Pag island has to be gemonensis

If one of you would find a sure key to part these two - he would get eternize

Mario

$

and the first one Boss ?

Pierre-Yves:
and the first one Boss ?

answer by the boss :
maybe you would have an overall picture!'?

One thing, I found out, but only about 60 to 70% on individuals, is: gemo has two points on head, while these two points in viridiflavus extend to a bar between the eyes.
And viridiflavus looks a bit more (but what is a bit? ) more striped.

Mario