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Posted: **Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:20 pm**

Michael Glass wrote:
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:there is no European legal ground for protection in this case

What about the German protection?! I think it should have priority over European law in the case of being more strict, shouldn't it?
No other German guy who can confirm the thing?

Not a German one, but I have to confirm this.
http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bartschv_2005/BJNR025810005.html#BJNR025810005BJNG000100000
But reading the text of the "BArtSchV", what about
§4(1)? nothing is written by picking them up with your hand

§4(3)2. zum Schutz der heimischen Tier- und Pflanzenwelt - to protect native Flora and Fauna

Mario

Posted: **Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:30 pm**

Michael Glass wrote:Nono, there is another part. If specially protected, you are forbidden to pick them up, tentatively visit their habitats and disturb them, particularly, to photograph them. It's included in the text afaik!

Edit: It seems that the explicit mentioning of photography and filming has been substituted by a general statement about disturbance of any kind.
http://www.buzer.de/gesetz/8972/a163244.htm

Is the there any qualifying statements in the text? In the UK equivalent legislation it refers to "wild" animals. If so, these could probably considered feral, so the protection wouldn't apply.

Posted: **Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:36 pm**

Michael Glass wrote:Well, as said in the other thread, German legalisation has all European reptiles and amphibians under protection - it does not at all mention whether they are alien or not. That's why it is illegal in Germany to release P. muralis in Hamburg (out of their natural range), but once sitting on the rock, they are protected and you are not allowed to collect them.

I don't have an English version on my finger tips:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anlage_1_z ... phibien.29
Amphibia spp. 3) 4) Amphibien – alle europäischen Arten -> (all European species)

Have I read (googletranslated) this right? These are protected in Germany?!!

Bombina orientalis
Hyla savignyi
Neurergus crocatus
Neurergus strauchi
Pelodytes caucasicus
Rana holtzi
Lacerta bilineata
Lacerta clarkorum
Lacerta parva
Lacerta princeps
Natrix megalocephala
Natrix natrix
Rafetus euphraticus
Vipera albizona
Vipera aspis
Vipera barani
Vipera lebetina
Vipera pontica

Posted: **Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:43 am**

All European species

Bombina orientalis :lol:

Hyla savignyi
Neurergus crocatus :lol:

Neurergus strauchi :lol:

Pelodytes caucasicus
Rana holtzi :lol:

Lacerta bilineata
Lacerta clarkorum
Lacerta parva
Lacerta princeps :lol:

Natrix megalocephala
Natrix natrix
Rafetus euphraticus :lol:

Vipera albizona :lol:

Vipera aspis
Vipera barani :lol:

Vipera lebetina
Vipera pontica - now we have it "official: This is a hybrid between V. kaznakovi and V. ammodytes transcaucasiana. See PDF-6129

Mario

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