A friend found (last spring) what looks like a helveticus x vulgaris hybrid...
http://www.natuurfotografen.org/forum/v ... 17&t=14804
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http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/forum/hyb ... c4263.html ))
Liam Russell wrote:see here and the link within too
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=437
Ilian Velikov wrote:Jeroen, can you elaborate a bit on why that Belgian one is a hybrid. Apart from the webbing on the hind feet it looks quite like L.v.graecus! The filament, the smooth dorsal crest, the lateral crests. Could it be an introduction? Although these are true for helveticus,too....
Ilian Velikov wrote:By the way, this makes me wonder is there any work done on L.vulgaris subspecies? The morphological differences between vulgaris and graecus are as many (if not more) as between vulgaris and helveticus; graecus might as well turn out to be another species.
In general, dorsal pattern of male graecus is much heavier and the animals are darker
Ilian Velikov wrote:In general, dorsal pattern of male graecus is much heavier and the animals are darker
I woudn't consider colouration that much as graecus do come lighter sometimes - http://www.biolib.cz/en/image/id88343/
However the crest length makes sence.
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:In meridionalis, crest is usually even smaller, I think.
Indeed, Ilian, graecus occurs in Bulgaria, as well as Albania and in fact quite a bit further up north along the Adriatic
I guess we will have to try to relocate that Belgian animal next spring and take a sample...
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