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Some summer herps

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:21 pm
by Julius Zidorn
Hi,

some nice herping days with friends and family, with quite nice findings. A weekend in W-Germany (Eifel), two days (and nights) in the area "im Solling", a few days in S-Germany and also some searchings near my place in Hamburg.
I managed to find my first Smoothie, and also a little salamander that can only be Fire Salamander. Have the juvenile ones already their typical colour ?
Well, surprisingly not too hot for herps, I found an Adder at 4pm (34 °C)
Enjoy,
Julius

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:53 pm
by Alexandre Roux
The only juveniles I've seen already had the typical color... Very strange salamander you found there !

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 9:25 am
by Thomas Reich
Thank you for the pictures.

It's a pity to see the adult fire salamander in such a bad condition. That lower jaw doesn't look healthy.

The animal in the first picture looks like Speleomantes to me.... Where did you find it?

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:54 am
by Laura Bok
Thank you Julius, nice finds and pictures!

I also find that first juvenile very interesting. I would say it is definitely no firesalamander, and agree with Thomas that it very much looks like Speleomantes - look at the prominent Canthus rostralis, the rounded toes and the missing yellow markings at the base of the legs. I am also very curious where you found it!

Cheers,
Laura

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 10:55 am
by Alexandre Roux
Thomas Reich wrote:The animal in the first picture looks like Speleomantes to me.... Where did you find it?


I agree !
This is all the more strange that there is no Speleomantes in Germany to my knowledge...

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:21 am
by Julius Zidorn
Hi,


yes, speleomantes was my first thought, too, but in this area only Fire Salamander occurs.
I found the animal under a cliff in the area "im Solling", SW-Niedersachsen, Germany.
In a circle of 20 metres I also found the adult semi-blind Salamandra plus two more, together with Bufo bufo, Rana temporaria, Lissotriton helveticus and Ichthyosaura.
Nice place, and you think you are in a jungle

Cheers,
Julius

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:30 am
by Julius Zidorn
After looking through the other pictures and some Sardinia trip reports, it must be Speleomantes.
Strange story...
Here are all the other pictures, maybe this helps.

I cannot tell you if there´s a bigger population, I made three short searches here and found only this single one.

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 11:31 am
by Alexandre Roux
No way, this is Speleomantes !
What a strange thing there, you may have discovered new location ??? (introduced for sure?)

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:36 pm
by Julius Zidorn
I do not think that the animal is introduced.

What should I do now in your opinion?
I will stay part of the next years "im Solling" and for sure I will search again for salamanders

Re: Some summer herps

PostPosted: Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:38 pm
by Julius Zidorn
Last pic of Speleomantes I´ve found